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标题: We are different,we are the same 我们不同又相同 [打印本页]

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-28 06:56
标题: We are different,we are the same 我们不同又相同
We are different,we are the same

by Xuefeng Pan

We are different may be in
Body, colour, size, shape even sex
While we are the same surely be in
Soul

We are different may be in
Culture, language, style, flavour even habits,
But we are the same surely be in
Love

We may never meet, we may never know
Each other may be strange for a while
But long familiar with Love and Soul

We may never meet, we may never know
Each other be familiar with we will
The same surely be our Love and Soul

Copyright © Xuefeng Pan | Year Posted 2018

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-28 06:59
译文

我们可能在不同
身体、颜色、大小、形状甚至性别
虽然我们是一样的
灵魂

我们可能在不同
文化、语言、风格、风味甚至习惯，
但我们还是一样
爱情

我们也许永远不会相遇，
也许我们永远都不会知道
彼此之间可能有些陌生
但早已熟悉爱与灵魂

我们也许永远不会相遇，
也许我们永远都不会知道
彼此熟悉我们会
同样是我们的爱和灵魂

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 19:08

We are different, we are the same    （1.  英美人会误解：您就是照片上当时那个人，只是眼下变样了；

                                                                                                            2.  应为：we are both similar and different 我们相同又相异）


by Xuefeng Pan

We are different may be in
Body, colour, size, shape even sex
While we are the same surely be in
Soul

We are different may be in
Culture, language, style, flavour even habits,
But we are the same surely be in
Love

We may never meet, we may never know
Each other may be strange for a while
But long familiar with Love and Soul

We may never meet, we may never know
Each other be familiar with we will
The same surely be our Love and Soul

Copyright © Xuefeng Pan | Year Posted 2018
本主题由 admin 于 2018-9-28 10:31 审核通过

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 19:11

李世纯发表于 2018-9-28 19:08
We are different, we are the same （1. 英美人会误解：您就是照片上当时那个人，只是眼下变样了； ...

We are different, we are the same    （1.  英美人会误解：您就是照片上当时那个人，只是眼下变样了；

                                                         2.  参考诗歌内容应为：we are both similar and different 我们相同又相异）


by Xuefeng Pan

We are different may be in
Body, colour, size, shape even sex
While we are the same surely be in
Soul

We are different may be in
Culture, language, style, flavour even habits,
But we are the same surely be in
Love

We may never meet, we may never know
Each other may be strange for a while
But long familiar with Love and Soul

We may never meet, we may never know
Each other be familiar with we will
The same surely be our Love and Soul

Copyright © Xuefeng Pan | Year Posted 2018
本主题由 admin 于 2018-9-28 10:31 审核通过
李世纯

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 19:19

李世纯发表于 2018-9-28 19:11
We are different, we are the same （1. 英美人会误解：您就是照片上当时那个人，只是眼下变样了； ...

比如十年后，在机场 cheak-in 时，您有可能 in English：We are different, we are the same，Sir ... ...

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 19:24

李世纯发表于 2018-9-28 19:19
比如十年后，在机场 cheak-in 时，您有可能 in English：We are different, we are the same，Sir ... .. ...

假设十年后，有可能在机场 cheak-in，您会 swear in English：We are different, we are the same，Sir ... ...

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-28 19:58

李世纯发表于 2018-9-28 21:24
假设十年后，有可能在机场 cheak-in，您会 swear in English：We are different, we are the same，Sir . ...

世纯是我的好老师，我是世纯的坏学生

呵呵...

李老师怎么理解？

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-28 20:08
we are both similar and different”
Should be "we are similar"

similar=nearly the same by comparison but some differences can also be found
same is quite close to identical in meaning

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 20:31

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-28 20:08
we are both similar and different”
Should be "we are similar"

similar=nearly the same by comparison but some differences can also be found （a）

same is quite close to identical in meaning （b）

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是的，赞同您的 A,B 两解；我们正是依据这两解，应用 A, 而不用B；也正是因为在实际生活中我们彼此不是 B 而是 A, 即切合您的诗意

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 20:52

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-28 20:08
we are both similar and different”
Should be "we are similar"

by the way，neither you nor i are some sort of teacher，we're classmates， nay , all of us here are classmates， good classmatesi here，right？

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-28 21:06

李世纯发表于 2018-9-28 22:52
by the way，neither you nor i are some sort of teacher，we're classmates， nay , all of us here ar ...

Should be neither you nor I am some kinds of teachers, we can be friends if you like

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 21:12

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-28 21:06
Should be neither you nor I am some kinds of teachers, we can be friends if you like

what's more, from now on, let's find faults with each other, shall we?

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 21:20

李世纯发表于 2018-9-28 21:12
ok what's more, from now on, let's find faults with each other, shall we?

that'll be beneficial, though rare

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-28 21:29

李世纯发表于 2018-9-28 21:20
that'll be beneficial, though rare

We are different, we are the same （我们就是他们，别看不一样）

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-28 21:58

李世纯发表于 2018-9-28 23:12
ok what's more, from now on, let's find faults with each other, shall we?

that's horrible actually! do you really think that either you or I have so many faults?

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-28 22:30
我的诗歌的题目又可以是：

《爱和灵魂永相同》

世纯如何看？

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-29 19:39

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-28 22:30
我的诗歌的题目又可以是：

《爱和灵魂永相同》

were your idear turned this way , take my saying above as nonsense

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-29 19:41

李世纯发表于 2018-9-29 21:39
were your idear turned this way , take my saying above as nonsense

世纯兄，我觉得我们的思维方式有时候不一致

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-29 19:43

李世纯发表于 2018-9-29 21:39
were your idear turned this way , take my saying above as nonsense

所以我觉得请你帮我把把关对我了解一些想法是有益的。这不是自私，我的很多思维习惯和我们的传统不是什么吻合，我在试图回归这个传统，但我自身无能为力...

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-29 19:46

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-29 19:41
世纯兄，我觉得我们的思维方式有时候不一致

that's horrible actually! do you really think both you or I should have the same idea ？

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-29 19:48

李世纯发表于 2018-9-29 21:46
that's horrible actually! do you really think both you or I should have the same idea ？

that's horrible actually! do you really think both you and I should have the same idea ？

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-29 19:50

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-29 19:48
that's horrible actually! do you really think both you and I should have the same idea ？

yes，you are right this time

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-29 19:53

李世纯发表于 2018-9-29 21:50
yes，you are right this time

I so sorry to say that I am always right, not just this time. As I said before that we are different in thinking yours is a typical Chinese style, but mine is somewhat hybrid, a mixture generated by using Chinese stuff and Western stuff...

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-29 19:55
I feel good for having you to speak English...cheers

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-29 19:56

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-29 21:55
I feel good for having you to speak English...cheers

I feel good for having you to speak English with...cheers

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-29 19:57

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-29 19:55
I feel good for having you to speak English...cheers

so do i

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-9-29 19:58

李世纯发表于 2018-9-29 21:57
so do i

My pleasure! Take a very good care of yourself my friend

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-30 14:42

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-29 19:53
I so sorry to say that I am always right, not just this time. As I said before that we are differe ...

yes, yes, i'm so sorry as well, to say you're always right

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-30 15:04

潘学峰发表于 2018-9-28 21:58
that's horrible actually! do you really think that either you or I have so many faults?

just for not many with yours, just for it's not for us to spend too much time to correct

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-9-30 15:24

李世纯发表于 2018-9-30 15:04
just for not many with yours, just for it's not for us to spend too much time to correct

just for you're sort of friend full of comprehension

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-10-2 11:22
我们可能在身体
如颜色、大小、形状甚至性别方面不同
可我们拥有相同的
魂灵

我们可能在文化
如语言、风格、风味甚至习惯不同，
但我们拥有一样的
爱情

我们也许永远不会相遇，
也许我们永远都不会知道
彼此之间可能有些陌生
但我们的爱与灵魂永相同

我们也许永远不会相遇，
也许我们永远都不会知道
彼此，可我们拥有
同样的爱和魂灵

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-2 22:20

潘学峰发表于 2018-10-2 11:22
我们可能在身体
如颜色、大小、形状甚至性别方面不同
可我们拥有相同的

在逻辑，或者说常理上讲，小可以为：中文部分我们有分歧之处（载体传递的思想

）

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-10-2 23:27

李世纯发表于 2018-10-3 00:20
在逻辑，或者说常理上讲，小可以为：中文部分我们有分歧之处（载体传递的思想）

您是说我的思想观念和您有什么不同吗？

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 09:02

潘学峰发表于 2018-10-2 23:27
您是说我的思想观念和您有什么不同吗？

My teacher friend: I mean that article, your creative source, where we have different views

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 09:24

李世纯发表于 2018-9-30 15:24
just for you're sort of friend full of comprehension

the season is that just for you're sort of friend full of comprehension 1.）

you have faults for us to spend check-time would be always too less to correct

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 09:26

李世纯发表于 2018-10-4 09:24
the season is that just for you're sort of friend full of comprehension 1.）

you have faults fo ...

the season is that just for you're sort of friend full of comprehension

namely：

you have faults for us to spend check-time would be always too less to correct

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 09:30

李世纯发表于 2018-10-4 09:26
the season is that just for you're sort of friend full of comprehension

the reason is that just for you're sort of friend full of comprehension

namely：

you have faults for us to spend check-time would be always too less to correct

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 09:38

潘学峰发表于 2018-10-2 23:27
您是说我的思想观念和您有什么不同吗？

您是说我的思想观念和您有什么不同吗？

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很有感觉朋友诗歌外国人，至少是非土著异域人，非中非西人

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 09:41

李世纯发表于 2018-10-4 09:38
您是说我的思想观念和您有什么不同吗？

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属真心感受，非揶揄，I'm sure of your comprehension

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 09:44

李世纯发表于 2018-10-4 09:41
属真心感受，非揶揄，I'm sure of your comprehension

for this point and I'm sure of my comprehension

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 09:47

李世纯发表于 2018-10-4 09:44
for this point and I'm sure of my comprehension

just for this point and I'm sure of my comprehension， either

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-10-4 13:02

李世纯发表于 2018-10-4 11:47
just for this point and I'm sure of my comprehension， either

谢谢世纯指教啊! 非常棒!

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-10-4 13:05

李世纯发表于 2018-10-4 11:38
您是说我的思想观念和您有什么不同吗？

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现代诗歌不就是来自外果仁吗？外果仁确实喜欢我的诗歌，有些和他们认为的瞩目诗人的诗歌一切用于6到12年纪诗歌教学。

作者: 潘学峰 时间: 2018-10-4 13:06
现代诗歌不就是来自外果仁吗？外果仁确实喜欢我的诗歌，有些和他们认为的瞩目诗人的诗歌一起用于6到12年级(中学)诗歌教学

作者: 李世纯 时间: 2018-10-4 13:11

潘学峰发表于 2018-10-4 13:05
现代诗歌不就是来自外果仁吗？外果仁确实喜欢我的诗歌，有些和他们认为的瞩目诗人的诗歌一切用于6到12年 ...

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